HTMX creator on the history of REST and why he thinks we got it wrong

I host a podcast for senior engineers and recently had Carson Gross, creator of HTMX, on as a guest. We covered how REST was originally defined, how the industry ended up calling JSON over HTTP "REST", and why he thinks returning HTML from the server is closer to the original idea. We also got into HTMX 4, when you actually do need a SPA, and how AI changes the tradeoff between simple and clever code. Full episode: youtu.be/9xs0oZN2rs4 4' video on the history of REST: youtube.com/watch