LLM packages in ELPA and SaaSS or: How to divide RMS from emacs maintainers (again)

I think it's worth making this known. Lately I've noticed a thread on emacs-devel that's both long and exhausting to read. Originally, it began as a request to include hermes.el (a client to hermes-agent) to NonGNU ELPA, but the thread seems to have gotten a little out of control: lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2026-09/msg00208.html And it generated more threads: lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2026-09/msg00235.html lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2026-09/msg00400.html The threads seem to be going nowhere, but from what I could read, it seems this is dividing RMS from the maintainers (again). Both threads are very long, and I wouldn't recommend reading them unless you have a lot of free time or you are bored.